Chinagate is the New Russiagate

I’ve become convinced the next major event that’ll be used to further centralize power and escalate domestic authoritarianism will center around U.S.-China tensions. We haven’t witnessed this “event” yet, but there’s a good chance it’ll occur within the next year or two. Currently, the front runner appears to be a major aggressive move by China into Hong Kong, but it could be anything really. Taiwan, the South China Sea, currency, economic or cyber warfare; the flash points are numerous and growing by the day. Something is going to snap and when it does we better be prepared to not act like mindless imbeciles for the fourth time this century.

When that day arrives, and it’s likely not too far off, certain factions will try to sell you on the monstrous idea that we must become more like China to defeat China. We’ll be told we need more centralization, more authoritarianism, and less freedom and civil liberties or China will win. Such talk is nonsense and the wise way to respond is to reject the worst aspects of the Chinese system and head the other way.

– From my 2019 piece: Two Paths Forward with China – The Good and The Bad

As the clownish farce that is Russiagate slinks back into the psyop dumpster from which it emerged, an even more destructive narrative has metastasized following the U.S. government’s incompetent response to covid-19.

It was clear to me from the start that Russiagate was a nonsensical narrative wildly embraced by a variety of powerful people in the wake of Trump’s election merely to serve their own ends. For establishment Democrats, it was a way to pretend Hillary Clinton didn’t actually lose because she was a wretched status quo candidate with a destructive track record, but she lost due to “foreign meddling.” This allowed those involved in her campaign to deflect blame, but it also short-circuited any discussion of the merits of populism and widespread voter dissatisfaction (within both parties) percolating throughout the land. It was a fairytale invented by people intentionally putting their heads in the sand in order to avoid confrontation with political reality and to keep their cushy gravy-train of entrenched corruption going.

Russiagate was likewise embraced by the national security state (imperial apparatus) for similar reasons. Like establishment Democrats, the national security state also wanted to prevent the narrative that the status quo was rejected in the 2016 election from spreading. It was incentivized to pretend Hillary’s loss was the result of gullible Americans being duped by crafty Russians in order to manufacture the idea that U.S. society was healthy and normal if not for some external enemy.

Another primary driver for the national security state was to punish Russia for acting like a sovereign state as opposed to a colony of U.S. empire in recent years. Russia has been an increasingly serious thorn in the side of unipolarism advocates over the past decade by performing acts such as buying gold, providing safe harbor for Edward Snowden, and thwarting the dreams of regime change in Syria. Such acts could not go unpunished.

So Russiagate served its purpose. It wasted our time for much of Trump’s first term and it helped prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the Democratic nomination. Now we get Chinagate.

When the premier empire on the planet starts blaming external enemies for its internal problems, you know it’s almost always an excuse to let your own elites off the hook and further erode civil liberties. While it appears the novel coronavirus covid-19 did in fact come from China, and China tried to discourage other countries from taking decisive action in the early days, our internal political actors blaming China for their own lack of preparation and timely reaction is patently ridiculous.

If Stacy and myself were able to see the situation clearly and respond early, why couldn’t our government? This isn’t rocket science. The Chinese were acting as if the world had ended in cities across the country and we’re supposed to believe U.S. leaders simply listened to what the CCP was saying as opposed to what they were doing? How does that make any sense?

It makes even less sense considering the Trump administration has been in an explicit cold war with China for almost two years. This concept that the American national security state just took China’s word for what was going on in the early days is preposterous. So what’s going on here? Similar to Russiagate, the increased focus on directing our ten minutes of hate at the Chinese provides cover for the elites, but Chinagate is far more dangerous because the narrative will prove far more convincing for many Americans.

Although Russiagate was rapidly embraced by people with severe Trump Derangement Syndrome, most people just didn’t buy into it or care. Only the most dimwitted amongst us actually believed the Russians were responsible for our major problems at home, but when it comes to China the argument can be far more persuasive because many aspects of the economic relationship between the U.S. and China are in fact problematic. Specifically, the U.S. transformed itself from a nation of producers and builders into a nation of debt-driven consumption slaves over the past five decades. While China played a key role in this process, it wasn’t the driver.

Did China force the U.S. to abandon gold convertibility in 1971, thus beginning the transition from an industrial empire into a financial one? Did China convince us to repeal Glass-Steagall, or lie about WMD in Iraq? Did China put a gun to our manufacturing executives’ heads and force them to offshore manufacturing, or did the executives do that with greed filled eyes while earning billions upon billions from labor arbitrage? China may have directly benefited from five decades of avarice-driven policy crimes committed by American “elites,” but they didn’t cause them. They are entirely homegrown.

Chinagate is far more dangerous than Russiagate because very serious fundamental problems within the U.S.-China economic relationship do exist. I don’t deny this, and I’m in favor of actual policies that would incentivize the American people to become producers and builders as opposed to castrated debt zombies. The problem is many of the people ratcheting up the volume on the evils of China (I don’t deny the abundance of evil) aren’t interested in bringing liberty and production back to America. Rather, they’re trying to take away more of your freedoms, economically and politically.

The same people who’ve been in charge of the country for the entire 21st century remain in charge. Presidential politics is pure theater in an empire. Think about it, the same people who brought you endless war, the surveillance panopticon and perpetual Wall Street crime and bailouts are supposed to take on China? The same China that made so many of them fabulously wealthy? Give me a fucking break.

The elitist agenda isn’t to use anger at China to bring freedom and production to our shores, but to use heightened emotional fear to tighten their domestic power grip. The idea is to use Chinese authoritarianism as a model for the U.S.

Unsurprisingly, the usual suspects are already coming out of their snake holes to advocate for exactly that. We saw this a few days ago when Harvard Law Professor and former George W. Bush administration lawyer, Jack Goldsmith, explicitly called for Chinese-like censorship of speech on the internet.

In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong. Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.

By all means advocate for a reshuffling of the relationship between the U.S. and China that will lead to more freedom, resilience and economic vitality at home and I’ll support it, but don’t tell me we need to become China in order to defeat China. If we’re dumb enough to fall for that, we’ll get exactly what we deserve. Good and hard.

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32 thoughts on “Chinagate is the New Russiagate”

  1. Not much to do but agree with this article. I’ll add that the pyramid cap that controls the USA is also heavily invested in the Chinese and Russia ‘cap’ enterprise as they are in turn in the west’s. What do they want? One world supremacy of their order and the complete subjugation of the worker bee slaves that currently take so much time, money and effort to control.

    The biggest problem for the pyramid cap are those democracy loving peoples, primarily inhabitants of the west and the Anglo-American empire. However, get strides have been made over the last few generations in population manipulation and control so that the end game is in sight.

    Whether China is the catalyst, bio terrorism, both or new agencies only guessed at, unless the sleeping masses (called the ‘dead’ by Satanists) come to their senses however meager then the continuing sleepwalk into sustainable development/Technocracy will advance ensuring close to 90% of the population will not be going forward as the next generations.

    But hey, government loves the people as is willing to safe guard them to the last citizen against all of government’s enemies, both foreign and domestic and would never think of advancing One World Order agenda while doing so.

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  2. The article’s constant repeating of the mantra of “evil China” feeds the process the article rightly warns us about.Whether this stems from a desire to be more acceptable to ignorant il-informed opinion in the USA,or is a reflection of your own unconscious prejudices I don’t know,either way.please desist,it brings a sour note to an otherwise sensible article.

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    • Thank you John. I also sense a preshaped perspective. As Shakespere’s Hamlet said, ” There is nothing good nor bad but thinking makes it so.”
      Or as I like to put it – By making accusations you reveal only your own perspective and prejudices.

    • The CCP is committing genocide, therefore it makes sense to say the CCP is evil. Krieger has never written anything prejudicial. So by “China” he likely meant the CCP, not the people of China.

    • John, “evil China” is not a mantra. It is a well known fact. Xinping is a self-proclaimed Maoist. Mao killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined.

      So why does calling a spade a spade, bother you?

      As to the article.

      Trump made a huge mistake by starting off with the trade imbalance and starting a trade war with the ChiComm’s. He should have led with China’s constant theft of US IP/Patents. Which costs US businesses big, medium, and small, hundreds of millions every year.

      But I agree wholeheartedly that we do not need to “become China in order to defeat China”.

  3. Definitely agree that Chinagate has the potential to be far worse than the distractionary Russiagate, which was basically a whiny temper tantrum from diehard blue teamers. Not only does Chinagate threaten to curb freedoms, but few of the anti-Russia people openly advocated for war, whereas I frequently see Chinagate zealots pushing for military conflict.

    Worst of all, the Chinagate adherents seem to have extreme cognitive dissonance (Q-tard 4D chess?) where they push for war but do not see themselves as warmongers at all. They argue that it’s a purely defensive measure to take on 1.4B Chinese people and if many millions have to die to make this a reality, so be it. They want to destroy the village to save it. If they’re willing to actually die to “stop” China, they will almost certainly be willing to give up freedoms to do so. After all, many of these people are the same ones who cheered the Patriot Act in 2001 despite self-identifying as small government conservatives.

    The sooner the concept of an American-led unipolar world is scrapped, the better it will be for humanity. Even those of us in the US would benefit from a new outlook, unless we’re corrupt and tied to the MIC.

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    • “the Chinagate adherents seem to have extreme cognitive dissonance (Q-tard 4D chess?) where they push for war but do not see themselves as warmongers at all.” nails it. sound familiar? remember iraq preemptive something something?

  4. Look you can find lots of blame with probably every facet of our society. Debt is our master now, fake markets, a cult-like central bank that is more private than central and all of it with debt coming out it’s ears. Maga banks plugged right into our “beautiful chocolate cake” filled swamp.

    Look Obama and his swampy band of crooks were just as phony but in a Democratic kind of way. They did throw some healthcare to some folks.

    There are rules you just don’t break. Don’t fuck with the money boys they are the front men for the real power brokers crony-capitalists, you are either in the club or just Fuck You and die when we say. Oh by the way it’s our $$$$$$$ not yours and we will take what we want and take as much as we want, so again Fuck You……..

    So it’s down to some people try to help but most won’t especially those that are suppose to give a shit, our completely rigged elected officials.

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  5. Perhaps society needs to know who these Elites are . Would it not be for our own good to start identifying them ? For example, our prime minister here in Canada would love to be one , yet is far to dim witted to be one …. does that make him one ? Or is he simply a “ prospect “ …like a dim witted puppet of the Elite ?.
    How do we rid society of this menace ??
    I believe we must start by identifying them , don’t you suppose ?

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    • Here’s one name to start

      From: Giants, the global power elite (book by Peter Phillips)

      g30 executive group

      William C. Dudley, US CB- Director: Bank for International Settlements, President: Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Vice Chairman: Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) PE- Goldman Sachs & Company, Executive VP: NY Fed, VP: Morgan Guaranty Trust Company PC- Council on Foreign Relations, World Economic Forum, Group of Thirty (G30), Partnership for New York City, Trilateral Commission, Director: Bank for International Settlements, Chair: Economic Club of New York, Economist: Federal Reserve Board E- New College of Florida (BA), University of California, Berkeley (PhD) F- net worth $8.5 million (New York Times); Federal Reserve salary $400,000+ (2016)

    • Another book on who these people are:

      Who’s Who of the Elite V9
      (Members of Bilderbergs, CFR, Skull & Bones & Trilateral Commission)
      By Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.

      The Enemy is Within!

  6. @K.W. How is China committing genocide? If you are referring to the Uighurs, you are mistaken. All of those wild claims originate with the US State Department and East Turkistan separatists. The more than 50 countries, mostly Muslim, who support China’s approach in Xinjiang, actually went there to see for themselves.

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  7. This is a SPOT ON article, Michael and we’ll said! I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Whitney Webb, but she just put an article out that goes into depth about the US elite competition with China and that they want to BE LIKE CHINA, and be in FRONT of China with AI. But they have an obstacle to overcome first and that is OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
    How people cannot see this is mind boggling.
    The FDA just approved microchips placement into the human hand, something already being done in Switzerland, as well as Trump signed 5G into law on March 23td and it is going up all over the US while we are on house arrest. This does not include the INSANE GATES working on a mandatory vaccine. I believe these meat and food processing plant closures is also DELIBERATE. STARVE the population into submission.

    Americans are now getting restless and angry. Will they fall for this? Remains to be seen. But you’re right if they are that STUPID and narcissistic they deserve what’s coming but the rest of us who have known for awhile, we DONT. Nor do our children or grandchildren.
    Great piece. Btw booted off Twitter but impressed with your lovely garden! Best to you and your family.

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  8. “political actors blaming China for their own lack of preparation and timely reaction is patently ridiculous”

    Krieger is full of s#!*, blaming anybody but the ChiComz for unleashing germ warfare WuFlu WMD on the world is patently ridiculous.

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  9. You let your emotions cloud your judgment when you call your adversary as “evil”. This leaves no room for compromise. You are falling into the same trap the Dems and Reps are running into.

    The Chinese are an ancient and wise nation. The only way I can see the US winning is by getting over its racism and leaning in on the Chinese ex patriots, for example Andrew Yang.

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    • I think people who gain centralized power in states, whether the U.S. or China tend to be the most cutthroat and sociopathic. This is true in China and in the U.S.
      I spend 99% of my time pointing out the evils within my own nation (the U.S.), you’re trying to see something that isn’t there.

    • I would be inclined to say “ were an ancient & wise culture “ . Now they are simply a cunning & corrupt society , who have allowed themselves to be held captive by tyranny.
      Doesn’t speak well as to what the future holds for us .

  10. Back in 1969 Leonid Brezhnev as Gen Sec of the CPSU and Leader of the USSR opened a backchannel to Washington to ask for US acquiescence in a Soviet nuclear strike on China. Instead Kissinger flew to meet Mao and brought China back into play.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7720461/USSR-planned-nuclear-attack-on-China-in-1969.html

    The US blocked itself from dealing with China more recently by Russiagate which was a bit of a disaster, in that coupled with EU and US sanctions, Russia was forced into cooperation with China. As a military power China is no match for US but with Russia it overwhelms USA.

    So Russiagate has blocked Us strategic options

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  11. Russiagate lives on in the sewage pit known as Goolag, Mike. While catching an episode of Keiser Report I couldn’t help but notice a friendly notice by Youtube that “RT is paid for by the Russian Government.”

    Whoa, what a shock… Thanks for saving my life, Youtube. Of course, what’s worse? RT paid for by Russia, or Washington paid for by Goolag?

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  12. The most pertinent questions for our so-called leaders:

    .. .Did China force the U.S. to abandon gold convertibility in 1971, thus beginning the transition from an industrial empire into a financial one? Did China convince us to repeal Glass-Steagal, or lie about WMD in Iraq? Did China put a gun to our manufacturing executives’ heads and force them to offshore manufacturing, or did the executives do that with greed filled eyes while earning billions upon billions from labor arbitrage? …

    The last part explains our current “China Syndrome” to a tee. And it explains the warped situation of our politics and dying economy.

    After all, it was Congress with the urging of the unions that passed workplace pay and benefits laws that made labor expensive in the US, and it was the same crowd that passed “free trade” agreements to totally circumvent these protections by sending labor to places where these laws could not be enforced. At the same time, these same people permitted the importation of illegal cheap labor to take up those jobs that could never be done for reasonable cost under the law.

    Its amazing how corrupt the unions became that they allowed the very people they work to get elected time and time again to disenfranchise them from both directions! And there is no end to this, either. It will grind away like gears in a bad transmission but won’t be reformed or repaired.

    I was reading about Sultan Murad IV in the book “The Ottoman Centuries”. He inherited a government in Constantinople as self-serving and leeching and dysfunctional as Trump’s Swamp in Washington. Murad was able to solve his problem. But then, he was able to execute offenders without let or hindrance, whereas such a thing is not “The American Way”…. yet.

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  13. We should not judge China by our own standards. Just because USA wants to be a unipolar hegemon, doesn’t mean China wants the same thing. I think they are very clear about wanting a MULTI POLAR world order.

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    • If you knew more about China’s standards, you might not have written that. China calls itself “the Middle Kingdom” today just as it did thousands of years ago: the ONLY civilized nation of men, surrounded by nations of barbarians, or rather, dogs. The arrogance of the Chinese culture is well grounded, and survived every calamity it faced.

      Naturally, this is not to say it is America’s duty to treat China like an enemy — even though that is America’s Imperial prerogative. A balanced approach is best. Stupidity like inserting our fleet between China and Taiwan should end forthwith. After all, its Chinese historic territory, just as Korea and Vietnam are historically the Middle Kingdom’s barbarian vassals.

      And nothing will keep China from rising out of the ruins of its last dynastic cycle. Its taken more than one century for them to return to being the center of the world. They are so close. That the American Empire thinks it can stop it from happening is quaint…

  14. Didn’t William F Buckley say the same thing about the US beating the USSR, i.e. “an ordered liberty”?

    If you don’t trust people, then authoritarianism seems like a good idea.

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  15. Michael, been a while since I stuck my nose in here – yikes, looks like you went over the edge. Fare you well but looks like I’m out of here. Kesey said that no matter how crazy you get there’s a reality in a dresser drawer waiting to talk to you or something like that should you ever wish to come back to reality. All the best – darms
    p.s. check out my gravitar & figure out where I made it from, hint abu ghraib

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