Hillary is the candidate of the corrupt establishment. The status quo wants Hillary in the White House so the parasitic gravy train can roll on. DNC head and Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is one of these people. She isn’t interested in reform, because reform wouldn’t advance her personal interests. She wants things to stay the way they are, because it’s working great for her.
Genuine liberals are finally starting to see these people for the frauds they are, which is why the Democratic Party is currently splitting in two. On one side there are those who understand United States policy doesn’t need a tweak here or there — it needs to be hauled off to the emergency room immediately. The so-called “elites” in the Democratic Party are just as disconnected and clueless as their Republican counterparts. Instead of accepting that paradigm level reform is required, they merely double down on their support of cronyism and rent-seeking.
– From the post: The Democratic Party’s Civil War Escalates – DNC Chair Attacks Elizabeth Warren’s Reform Efforts
*Note: As of June 9th, 2016 the total number of pledges has more than doubled to 112,500. The pledge now reads:
Bernie or Bust: A pledge to write-in Bernie Sanders or vote for the Green Partycandidate 112,000+ people have taken so far. Why? Keep reading.
Original post below:
I think Donald Trump is one of the most underrated presidential candidates in U.S. history, while Hillary Clinton is likely the most overrated. Democrats across America will very shortly experience extreme buyers remorse as Hillary melts into a puddle of Goldman Sachs checks in the face of the political hurricane that is Donald Trump.
Over the past severals weeks, I’ve been hammering home the obvious fact that Hillary Clinton is a far weaker candidate than Sanders against Donald Trump in the general election. I’ve been taken aback by the massive traffic generated by the recent post, Why Hillary Clinton Cannot Beat Donald Trump, and I think it speaks volumes about how passionately people feel about the topic. It’s by far the most popular piece I’ve published this year, with over 23,000 reads on Liberty Blitzkrieg alone.
One of the things I mentioned in that piece was the fact that a significant number of Sanders supporters will never vote for Hillary. This sentiment is so intense there’s even a website advocating “Revolt Against Plutocracy” that is collecting pledges from Sanders supporters to vote Green Party should Hillary get the nomination. This is a brilliant strategy since a third party vote makes it much easier to quantify the exact numbers of people revolting against the DNC. 53,000 voters have already made the pledge.
What’s worse for the Democratic establishment, I’m consistently encountering commentary from Bernie supporters that they would rather vote for Trump than Hillary. While this won’t represent the majority, it’s likely to be material. In contrast, there probably aren’t more than a handful of Hillary supporters who would vote for Trump over Bernie. This is one reason Sanders is a much stronger general election candidate than Clinton.
To see what I mean, let’s turn to the Washington Times:
The movement is called “Bernie or Bust,” and it means just that: If Sen. Bernard Sanders of Vermont loses the Democratic presidential nomination, a group of his supporters will either write in his name in the general election or consider casting their ballot for a Republican.
The one thing they certainly won’t do: Vote for Hillary Clinton.
More than 50,000 people already have signed up at the Revolt Against Plutocracy, pledging to vote for the Green Party candidate in the general election or write in Mr. Sanders’ name if Mrs. Clinton wins the Democratic nomination. Other groups, such as Grassroots Action for Bernie, are taking to social media, using Facebook and Twitter to try to get the “Bernieorbust” hashtag trending.
“We Bernie fans just won’t vote for her,” said Steph Faulkner, who hails from Mr. Sanders’ home state of Vermont and is an avid Sanders supporter. “We are sick of the media telling us we have too. We don’t like her. We don’t trust her. We believe she is a Wall Street puppet. There is nothing they can say that will make us vote for such a woman. I mean, heck, people would vote for Trump over her, and he is a monster. What does that tell you? It tells me she is seen as the bigger evil. Trump is less evil than Hillary.”
“More than 50 percent of Sanders supporters will never vote for her,” Chris Fox, a Sanders supporter in Fairfield, Ohio, said in an email. “That is why she will not beat Trump. Weigh the Republican hate for her (motivation to vote) against the Democrat progressive liberal’s hate for the status quo (unmotivated to vote for her), and we have a major problem on our hands. Only Sanders can beat Trump, but that’s not why we are voting for him. He’s the only person we trust with the job.”
The sentiment was by no means universal. At the polls Tuesday, a number of Sanders supporters told The Washington Times that despite tension between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, they would vote for the former secretary of state if only to stop Republicans.
“Any of the Republicans would move us more toward the killing of civilians and a more interventionist foreign policy than what we’ve seen from the Obama administration,” said a 30-year-old woman voting in Atlanta.
Interesting logic. We know for a fact that Hillary is an interventionist, murdering neocon, but this woman is still willing to vote for her despite claiming to care about militarism.
The Huffington Post also covered the “Bernie or Bust” movement:
ST. PAUL, Minnesota — A horde of Bernie Sanders supporters at a local pub were watching closely as the Super Tuesday election results rolled in, a few booing as Hillary Clinton’s smiling face, accompanied by a green check mark, repeatedly flashed across the screens.
When they learned their candidate had beaten Hillary Clinton in Minnesota, taking the largest share of the state’s available delegates, they chanted and cheered the Vermont senator’s name — and many vowed never to support his opponent, even if she goes on to win the Democratic nomination.
“I will never support Hillary Clinton,” said Adam Burch, 28, of Minneapolis. “I identify as a socialist. She stands for everything that I’m against. It’s Bernie or nothing.”
“He’s the only other person in this race who doesn’t have someone backing him,” Coltem explained. “Trump is crazy; he does a lot of weird stuff. I would prefer not to vote for him for president, but that’s how much I dislike Hillary Clinton.”
There goes that “I’m voting for Trump instead of Clinton” sentiment again. I’m seeing it everywhere as of late.
The writing is on the wall, and now even Democratic operatives are beginning to sweat. Take a look at some of the commentary in a Politico article published yesterday:
It’s time to stop pointing and laughing at the Republican primary. For all the GOP front-runner’s flaws, many veteran Democrats are beginning to conclude, Donald Trump is a canny operator who just might end up in the White House if they’re not careful.
He appears to be cracking the code with white working-class voters who could help him put blue Rust Belt states in play against Hillary Clinton. He’s helping to fuel record turnout in GOP primaries and he’s mastered the media like no candidate in recent memory, with his constant feeding of catnip to cable TV and his 140-character missiles on Twitter.
“It’s fair to say there’s been a graveyard already out there of people underestimating him,” said Doug Sosnik, a former Bill Clinton White House adviser. “And I am old enough to remember the sort of Democratic intelligentsia that was hoping Ronald Reagan would be nominated by Republicans in 1980 because everyone knew he was a doddering old right winger who could never get elected president.”
“I think Trump could beat her like a tied-up billy goat,” said Mudcat Saunders, a rural Democratic strategist who’s supporting Bernie Sanders. “There are many areas in key swing states like Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, and Pennsylvania that look like Sherman went through and didn’t burn anything. Empty factories, empty buildings, few opportunities for young people. It’s sad. It should be no surprise to anybody that voters in those areas are gravitating to Trump.”
Mary Kay Henry, president of the 2.1-million strong Service Employees International Union, told David Axelrod’s “Axe Files” podcast recently that Trump is “touching this vein of the terrible anxiety that working-class people feel about their current status, but more importantly, how terrified they are for their kids not being able to do as well as they have, never mind doing better.”
“One thing that scares me the most about Trump is the fact that every one of these Republican primaries to date has record turnout. And I think a large part of that, though not all of that, but a large part of that is that Trump is bringing out people who don’t normally vote, and adding to the Republican mix on those things and so I worry that in the general election along with the traditional Republican voters that he has the opportunity to bring out a chunk of voters that don’t normally vote in those elections and in some elections that could tip the scales,” he said.
If Trump plays his cards right, it could be a bloodbath for Hillary.
For related articles, see:
Why Hillary Clinton Cannot Beat Donald Trump
The Democratic Party’s Civil War Escalates – DNC Chair Attacks Elizabeth Warren’s Reform Efforts
It’s Not Just the GOP – The Democratic Party is Also Imploding
The DNC is “Feeling the Bern” – Debbie Wasserman Schultz Faces Serious Primary Challenge
Elizabeth Warren Releases Blistering Report on Corporate Criminality – Singles Out SEC Uselessness
Thoughts on Election Day: Relax—Both Parties Are Going Extinct
Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton – “I’m Proud to Say Henry Kissinger is Not My Friend”
A New Low – Hillary Clinton Claims 9/11 is the Reason She’s Owned by Wall Street
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I will pledge for Senator Sanders if he will pledge to stop over sixty-five years of the taxpayer funded abusive application of the state secrets privilege and related doctrine, act, executive order, regulation and related policy abuses and hold the abusers responsible and accountable.
Tell me, Mr. Fernandez, have you ever put these pre-conditions on any other candidate; either here, or anywhere else? I doubt it!
George Minor, many times I have asked the same from other candidates and they also have never responded. Many times here on LibertyBlitz I have asked is there a candidate out there that will stop over sixty-five years of the abusive application of the state secrets privilege and related doctrine, act, executive order, regulation and related policy abuses. I have not received and answer. I have sent Hillary numerous e-mails requesting the same. No answer. I have asked the Democratic party numerous times and got no answer.
Both Bernie and Hillary are good people and grest candidates. We and the Democratic Party are lucky to have them running this year. Either one will be a great president, and I will happily and without any equivocation or hesitation whatsoever with my heart for whoever wins the Democratic nomination.
No I would never vote for Trump. I’d be writing his name in & still voting for Bernie. Just like Sanders deserves to be POTUS, the People Deserve the right candidate. By the time the election in November gets here there will be enough for him to win [12 months behind in the media Blackout by Corporate owned Cable networks, we will have caught up by then]
Mr. Turner, I agree they are good candidates then why don’t they pledge to stop over sixty-five years of the taxpayer funded abusive application of the state secrets privilege and related doctrine, act, executive order, regulation and related policy abuses and no matter where it leads hold the abusers responsible and accountable.
You would hold the entire country hostage to Clinton or Trump for one issue? You will never get a candidate or a politician that will have the same stand on100% of the issues that you do. Try voting for a candidate and then asking. I don’t doubt that Sanders would at least respond to you, even if not with the answer you want. None will campaign on your issue when most of the constituents want to hear their stand on issues different than yours. They address the concerns of the masses in the limited amount of time they have to address the entire country.
Madeleine Albright: War Crime Trials Are Necessary for Humanity’s Future. Just remember that needs to include Dick Cheney’s war crimes.
If you actually put this on Sanders site you might get an answer. Tweet @SenSanders or go on BernieSanders.com or [email protected] Asking on some random article will get you nowhere.
Here is a tiny step in the right direction: http://www.latimes.com/world/afghanistan-pakistan/la-na-cia-torture-lawsuit-20160422-story.html
The following images taken at a pub in London do indeed reflect the actual state of affairs in the GOP, and surely Mr.Trump can take the credit for that!
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2549190.1456861209!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/549566649.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2549189.1456861208!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/549566339.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/thethreestags/photos/pcb.10153972461677138/10153972458187138/?type=3
This refusal to see the liability that Hillary has become is to Democrats what Bush’s fascination with supermarket checkout lasers should have been to Republicans: an unmistakable sign that he was, and she is, completely out of touch with mainstream America’s experience.
I can tell you that my experience has been among friends on the left, right and center, the mood of the electorate this year is unlike anything I’ve seen in over 45 years of voting. EVERYONE IS FED UP. It is universal. How that plays out remains to be seen but, like it or not, the tide is going on those like Hillary Clinton and coming in for those like Bernie and Trump.
This is going to be a watershed in American politics of titanic proportions.
Hey, I agree with those Sanders supporters. I’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton either. However, I won’t vote for their boy Sanders either. I’m voting for Trump.
A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary
Oddly enough, I don’t have any problem with that. For this 82 year old, lifelong, voting Democrat, as long as it’s not Hillary…”America” wins!
Make that 50,000+1. I will never vote for another Clinton, or even a, so-called, “Clinton Democrat”. That includes state, and local elections, also.
PS I see you are black …does this not mean anything to you?https://www.facebook.com/youngberners/videos/869443309821254/?pnref=story
HOW ABOUT THIS ONE? http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/02/msnbcs-chris-hayes-highlights-white-supremacist/208985
BERNIE SHOULD GET YOUR VOTE!!!
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP!! ..NOR HILLARY ..IT’S BERNIE OR BUST ..BUT HILLARY IS THE LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS
The “lesser of two evils” is still evil. After 40 years of being governed by the “lesser of two evils”, my head, and my heart says “Bring it”! I think that is the only chance we have of re-awakening the “dream” that was America.
You’re right on the Black part! FYI: I have spent 63 years “believing” in the “Democratic Party”. Ten of those years was spent in Washington, as Chief of Staff to a Congressman. I worked on both Clinton campaigns. All those years, I operated under the “lesser of two evils”, or “we have to protect the Supreme”. In my heart, I never trusted Bill Clinton. I now believe that feeling has been validated. I do not believe Hillary Clinton is morally, or ethically worthy of being POTUS. Her entire history is there for your review. From her time as a “Goldwater Girl” through her time as Secretary of State.
Any objective analysis will reveal that Hillary Clinton has never distinguished in any of these positions! I think we are long overdue for a female POTUS, Just not this woman!
Oh well. Looks like my link didn’t work either. But that’s alright. George Minor appears to be in-the-know, and I believe he won’t vote for Trump or Cruz. I believe in his wisdom, and I believe Bernie Sanders will be his choice. I think that, together, we will vote for the only true progressive in the race. Sure, he’s running on the Democratic ticket, but we know where his loyalties lie.
I’m tagging along with Mr. George Minor on this if it’s OK with him.
By all means, come on in; and bring all of your friends!
#BernieorBust
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1728288754058672/
Launched on June 22nd last year, Revolt Against Plutocracy got 600 pledges in the first nine days. In the last week, 6,000 people have taken the Bernie or bust pledge. Thanks for covering this story.
I think I smell a Karl Rove in this. Vote who ever you see fit, but never sign a pledge to do or not do.
This kins of rhetoric will split the Democratic Party and enable a GOP to get into the White House. That means Tea Party judges will be appointed who will affect this country negatively for decades.
I see you’re encouraging Bernie supporters to vote for Trump if Bernie is not the candidate. Do you really want this obnoxious, egocentric, ill-tempered man as the Leader of the Free World? The man who has to repeatedly show his hand size on TV to prove his genitals are not small? He has no dignity and must have something wrong in his head to be mentioning that at every opportunity.
Trump stands for nothing Bernie stands for and Bernie’s voters are too smart to fall for your obvious attempts to turn them against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.
The writer must be, either a Karl Rove mole in overdrive to drive a wedge between Hillary and the voters, or an irrational, innumerate who is lost in a world of fantasy.
Dream on, dude!
Karl Rove mole!
Too funny.
You should peruse someone’s website at least before making silly comments.
I have as much contempt for the Republican Party as I do the Democratic party. My interest is in overthrowing the status quo and restoring government by and for the people.
Hillary is a total oligarch stooge.
Bernie sanders all the way
I doubt if Bernie supports this. IF he loses the nomination, HRC is still a better choice than Drumpf. Not voting is a three-year-old’s tantrum technique and will only help the opposition. Grow-up! (I’ll bet this whole idea is the work of the GOP)
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out “who is behind this.” They have an about page: https://citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/about/
Was clicking to this really that difficult?
the DNC earned ‘Bernie or Bust’ … if DNC ran this primary election fair & square, Bernie supporters would be happy to back down if he lost fairly. But he won’t & DNC did everything but run the primary’s fair. They deliberately had him in a Media Blackout; scheduling debates weekends before Xmas & Super Bowl Sunday weekend. Democrats do not appreciate their democracy being stolen from them. This is the price America will pay for corporate corruption. FDR & many others have been warning us of the dangers of this happening to America for hundreds of years. We should have gotten money out of our Democracy since the inception of the aUnited States of America. DNC can not bully us into getting “their way” which is NOT The American Way
It sounds like you will enjoy voting for Trump then if you refuse to vote for Hillary the real democrat. BS should have never been on the Democrat ticket. And dividing the Democrat ticket by not voting for her if she wins you will be voting for Trump!
THE DNC has missed the point with Bernie Supporters. WE WILL NEVER VOTE for hillary. WE MAY NEVER VOTE DEMOCRATIC AGAIN.
Bernie is a whacked out socialist who’ll bankrupt us! Hillary is a lying crook owned by Wall Street! Who are we folks, neoconservatives? The vitriol from both camps of the progressives is nothing but damaging to the success of the party. The Republican rhetoric seems to be seeping into our discussions. Stop it. The fact is we’re fortunate to have these two people on the roster who have such long and decent records of service.
Bernie has been fighting for the middle class and against a powerful oligarchy for nearly three decades. Hillary has been a champion of equality for women and minorities since she was a grad student. Both stand for and have been fighting for things that all progressives should care about. Either will presumably continue the efforts and successes made over the last few years – one intends to disrupt the status quo of controlling government in the interests of a few and the other to push the progress made under President Obama to the next step. One wants more abrupt change and the other a more gradual movement.
This election holds a bigger prize (and threat) than POTUS. The more important issue is, in my opinion, SCOTUS. In all likelihood there may be as many as three vacancies over the next several years and their replacements will impact law for another generation. This has to be the focus of thinking voters. Citizens’ united, civil rights, sensible gun control, LGBT equality, voting control, Roe v Wade and more are all on the table.
As for our candidates for POTUS, they both have great things to offer – and the requisite bruises that lifetimes of public service will bring. 26 years of Sanders’ work in Congress has earned him labels that have put him on the fringe – outside the mainstream, and he has not been successful in swaying his colleagues to his side. In over a quarter century he has been chief sponsor of only three Bills and two were for re-naming post offices in Vermont. The third successfully increased the annual cost of living increase of our military after he became chairman of that committee. All told he has introduced 353 Bills and has a success rate of about 1%. His political revolution is ideologically admirable, but he cannot do it without Congress – and he has not demonstrated that he can sway congress to adopt his views. This concerns me, not only for the potential of another POTUS term filled with inertia and obstruction, but for the disillusionment of a youthful, passionate new batch of progressives who he has attracted to the movement.
Hillary has been the target of fearful republicans for 20 years and some of their smears have stuck – and some do have kernels of truth under all the hype. She is accused of swinging whichever way she must to win and it has earned her a dangerous level of distrust – even among her followers. I see it as pretty much the nature of the beast. A good politician, in my opinion, comes out with their own views, but must be willing to give up on some ideas or to change some positions according to the will of the people as it is made known. As a Senator for 8 years she, like Sanders, only sponsored three Bills, but she co-sponsored 75 that became law, including the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. In her tenure as a Senator she earned a reputation of being effective by members on both sides of the aisle. Over her public career, no one has championed the rights of women and minorities more than she. She has demonstrated that she can garner the respect even of her opponents – and I believe she has a better chance of moving the progressive agenda forward than Sanders.
The Republican roster for POTUS has been a laughing stock of the entire world this season. Precious little has been learned about any of their platforms from over twenty debates, except their bawdy humor, their ability to attack each other, the President, and the Democratic candidates. Trump or Cruz, one, will likely be their candidate for POTUS and either would be horrific choices. Trump is a shrewd brand marketer who doesn’t have the class, language skills, self-control or preparation to represent the country on the world stage. Cruz places the tenets of his brand of evangelistic faith above the constitution. We don’t need a carnival barker OR a preacher as POTUS.
Progressives haven’t been showing up with any great numbers so far. I want to believe it’s because most are in the middle and really don’t care which one wins the primary – and they’ll all be out in droves in November, I hope.
A great expose on Hillary Clinton’s record within the black community, written by black female scholar Michelle Alexander:
Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/
I definitely will be voting for Senator Bernie Sanders . I definitely will not vote for Hillary Clinton . Her former staffer just received immunity , which means there is a Federal Grand Jury involving her emails (oddly enough she never had a government assigned e-mail , you know Secretary Hillary Clinton.State Department.Gov address (what ever the real format) ) . Everything on her private server in fact became government property and domain without any advanced encryption . There is more to this considering the F.B.I. has seized a total 6 servers . I believe there will be an indictment , and that her only hope is to be elected President so that when she is impeached , she will be pardoned . It’s a Hail Mary option ! She needs to drop out and save us all (we the people) the aggravation . I supported , and voted for Hillary during her Senate bid .
I will not only not vote for Hillary Clinton, if she becomes the nominee, I’ll vote for Trump out of spite to make the Hillbots suffer for refusing to get behind the only actual liberal in the race.
There is ONE candidate who is worst than that racist misogynist, and that would be Hillary “Monsanto” Clinton. I sooner jump into the Cuyahoga River while it’s on fire than support Ms. Monsanto for anything but jail time.
#StillSanders #StillBernie #HillaryStepAside
http://drpj.weebly.com/revolution.html
I will not vote for Hilary either. #bernieorbust
#BernieorBust
I have donated to Bernie, I have volunteared for Bernie, I have argued for Bernie. I will vote for Bernie when I finally get my chance. But come November I will vote for ANYONE against Trump. There are many valid arguments against Clinton. However, I do not want someone who quotes Mouselini, who is supported by the KKK, who encourages supporters to commit acts of violence at his rallies, who calls women bitches and dogs, who preaches hate against Muslims and Mexicans in the most powerful office in the world and I will fo ANYTHING I can to keep that from happening. Unfortunately, in our corrupt political system, the choice of the less of two evils is often the only choice that we are given. If Bush taught us anything, it’s that the worse of two evils really is worse. I will keep working for Bernie, and I hope to be able to vote for someone I actually believe in come November. However, if the choice is between a beligerent Nazi, and a run of the mill corrupt politician, I will do whatever is in my power to keep the beligerent Nazi from being elected.
– So what is their strategy, to allow others to decide for them or to vote republican?
I have never seen such a whim and immature stubbornness since… Well, the Trump campaign.
50K idiots.
Actually 62k now.
https://citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/about/
Bernie Sanders Music Video – We Got The Power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9guQI912Y1M&feature=youtu.be
I will not vote for Hillary. i will vote for a 3rd party first. I am an Independent and worked the Bernie Campaign in NH. I am solid behind Bernie. I will do a write in or vote 3rd party as I have done in the past rather than hold my nose to vote. I am a veteran and stand by the country I served and the oath I took.
I already decided if Bernie S is not the Nomination i am writing him in My State takes right in votes NC – the person seeing it will know – the DNC will know — All will know Bernie is my choice, my only hope for this election
IMO writing in “Bernie” is not the right way to go for two reasons:
• Your vote would be invalidated so your vote doesn’t do any good to anyone
• The signal sent to the DNC although will be strong but it will be too late to have a positive influence and we will be faced with 4 years of Trump.
HRC has anyway no chance against Trump. He will rip her apart just for the money she took from Wall Street, Oil Industries…. and not to forget from Trump himself. So Trump knows best what favors Clintons offered him, he won’t be ashamed to reveal every single detail.
My idea would be this:
Every Bernie Supporter who is registered as a DEM changes his party affiliation from DEM to Independent right after the primaries in his state. This can easily been done On-Line, it will take 5 minutes or less. If every donor of our campaign participates in this action we will have millions of party resignations.
The state’s DEM Parties will have to report this massive party resignation to the DNC. The DNC will hopefully understand this as a very strong signal telling the situation is becoming serious. We will give the DNC some time to rethink their premature decision and then to nominate Bernie.
If the DNC understands the signal:
We will win, we will have Bernie in the White House!
If the DNC does not understand the signal and still insists on HRC:
We’re going to vote GREEN / Jill Stein in the Generals thus giving a third party a massive support. Since GREEN has probably much more in common with us/Bernie we even can do this with a clear conscience and we would have an impressive part of Independents on our side.
Finally the most difficult thing:
We would have to convince this older but amiable Gentleman, our Hero to be the first time in his life a real “politician” and to change his position by endorsing Jill Stein.
Who would be in our boat?
• all Jill Stein Supporters
• most of Bernie Supporters
• all HRC Opponents
• all Trump Opponents
And: Sorry for my English, it’s not my native language 🙁
I like this idea. Immediately following California’s primary in June, I am changing from Democrat to Independent. Thanks.
Bernieorbust!
#bernieorbust
Beanie supporters talk a big game, but in the end this is just extreme left wing rhetoric and childish aditude. The fact that your pushing the notion that most Beanie supporters would rather vote for a bigoted xenophobe over Hilary shows just how in denile and overall delusional the support base is. Trump and Sanders are essentially two sides of the same coin, one pushing policies that are aspiring to people’s fears, the other to their dreams and those are platforms that simply have no substance in elections anymore. Pragmatism is the only course. If you want to see a Republican, let alone Trump, in office after the stellar 8 years of George Bush, then go ahead, vote independent or Republican and have your little “revolution” while stomping your feet in protest hoping for the clouds to part because that would be really productive for liberals at this point. You know and I know that the nature of politics is not going to change regardless of who is in office and no self respecting human being, especially a liberal demacrat, is going to let an individual like Trump get into the Oval Office. When it comes down it and you’re in that booth, you’ll hopefully come to your senses.
Yeah, just like Bush really wasn’t any worse the Gore. History is lost on some folks. Don’t be a pious fool!
Remember these guys when you decide not to vote–they really sacrifice for us to have the privilege to vote–just go fine a vet and slap him/her–hard.
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/874473109309481/?pnref=story
Yeh stupid. Vote Trump in by refusing to vote for Hillary. How much the Koch Brothers paying you for selling us out?
My five month old demonstrates more logic than you.
Oh, come on you guys. It’s because she is a woman. . .period!
Absolutely absurd. If Elizabeth Warren was in the race every single Bernie Sanders supporter would vote for her.
You know it, and I know it.
So basically what your saying is that if Bernie, a man who believes in liberal causes and equal rights doesn’t get the nomination…your willing to sign over our country to either a demagog megalomaniac who is completely unpredictable or a government hating conservative bible thumper that wants to rule the United States under Biblical law…just because you don’t like Hillary….seriously??! At least with Hillary I know what I’m getting!!! #voteblue
IT BEGINS WITH BERNIE, BUT IT DOES NOT END WITH BERNIE!!!
Hillary Clinton and her supporters need to understand that this is a REVOLUTION! It is not just about Bernie Sanders, he is the one leading this revolution, the one who set it in motion! It will continue and there are millions here to make it happen. The people who not only support Bernie Sanders, but believe in this revolution are smart, informed, educated and angry! They are not just going to fade away into the status quo and back under the control of the rich and corrupt! We have had enough! Our rights were stolen, our voices were stolen, for many our livelihood and our homes were stolen! We are an oppressed nation that is finally awakening to the truth of what has been going on for many years, a plot, an intricate scheme to control our every right as a human being! I for one will never give up and will fight for Bernie Sanders and this revolution until my last breath! Politically, We will not sleep again! RISE UP BERNIE PEOPLE! Bernie’s political revolution is slowly peeling back the lid on a can of BERNIN HOT whoopass and many Americans just don’t get it! It’s coming! Even if he does not get nominated, this revolution WILL CONTINUE! Bernie People! Continue to stand tall! Stand up to this oppressive crap! NEVER, EVER GIVE UP!
Is there anything in the US law that bars Bernie Sanders or Trump contesting as independent candidates for presidency in case they don’t get nominated by their own parties? I would very much like to know.
There is nothing to prevent that.
The number of voters who will only settle for Bernie, or bust needs to be “yuge”! Of paramount importance, is to send a message to the establishment, the DNC and RNC. The message: The game is over. We know you now for what your are. Hillary wins the nomination? Trump! Trump! Trump! Bernie wins? Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!
I will, never ever ever EVER vote for Hillary Clinton.
I’m sick of voting for “the lesser evil”
If my attitude and posture ends in a republican presidency, THEN SO BE IT.
God knows I can watch the ship sink with a blank face.
This is BERNIE OR BUST and the DNC will regret their alliance with the Clintons. And they will suffer for calling us fools for believing in Bernie.
I was and am a Bernie supporter and thought that most who support him were very intelligent, but this statement and movement makes me ill. I guess that you would rather have Trump destroying the world or Cruz killing every social program that exist. How utterly disgusting. The white house and the senate is what we need in the hands of someone who cares. Hillary may not be the best, but she is head and shoulders ahead of what is left. There is no one in the other party that will be socially responsible. Why would any intelligent person give their future away.
Bernie or Bust for me. Hillary is dangerous, manipulative, supports Fracking, loves war and the profits from them, played dirty the last time she ran, absolutely cannot be trusted, and is not “one of us” like she pretends to be… and I could go on, believe me. She does not care about anyone but maintaining her clinton dynasty no matter what it takes. There is no one, other than Senator Sanders who has total integrity, cares about the citizens of the Country as well as our global community, and he is the only one without “baggage” that could take on Trump and win. In fact, some who are for Trump are also tired of the “establishment” corrupt politics and Bernie offers them the opportunity for a better world for all of us as well, just as he does for anyone attached to the Democratic, Republican or Independent arena. I would write Bernie in, if need be. I have never and will never support or for Hillary Clinton.
People who want a Democrat as President, but would rather see Donald Trump as President over Hillary, are complete idiots. You may not like her but she’s light years better than he is. Letting Trump win to spite Hillary is stupid and could well mean the end of America since he’s already threatened nuclear war with several countries. Would you really rather die in a nuclear war than have Hillary become President?
The Bernie or Bust movement has it’s merits but I see it as a person who wants to cut down a tree and starts by cutting down limb by limb. If you truly want to have political revolt you must start at the base of the tree, in the case of politics, that would be the lobbyist in Washington. A politician is only the limb , start by blocking access to our elected officials by lobbyist. Get a politician( Bernie Sanders) to have a bill put on this years presidential ballet that would make lobbing our elected officials against the law and let the people of this country vote on that. I consider my self a Democratic Socialist but would not back Bernie for one big reason . It was good of him to point out problems in our country but he like Donald Trump did not tell us how he would fix these problems. If Bernie would get that bill put on this years presidential ballet I would switch from Hillary and vote for him. I don’t like the present state of politics in our country and agree the we need a political revolution but voting for anyone but Hillary Clinton would case the Bernie or Bust Movement to waste the progress that Bernie has made in the Democratic platform. Take the progress that Bernie has made and vote for Hillary and all Democratic Candidates up for election. Then set up a website and get a these elected officials (Hillary Clinton included) you voted for to access this website to watch your concerns. Use your mussel and please change this country.
I would NEVER, under any circumstances, vote for Trump. We as a nation have collectively lost about about 5 IQ points because the media has rammed his idiotology down our throats for 16 months. I have voted with my conscience for 30 yrs and will continue to. #Writein4Bernie
Yes, I am going to vote for who I consider the most reasonable candidate even though they refuse to address the issue of the abusive application of the state secrets privilege etc. Still, I am dismayed that these candidates use as their transitional object to pull out the old standby of torture to pacify there anxieties.
Here are 20 reasons why I think Hillary Rodham Clinton would make a terrible President.
1) I don’t trust her. The email scandal just about summed up her complete inability to tell the truth. An expert lawyer who became Secretary of State with multiple BlackBerries but didn’t have a clue how emails or servers work or what constitutes classified material? Oh please, Madam Pinocchio, do you think we’re all completely stupid?
2) She’s greedy. I mean properly, outrageously, snout-in-the-trough avaricious. A woman who for decades has exploited her political status to fill her boots with tens of millions of dollars, fueled by $200k-a-pop speeches from her Wall Street chums like Goldman Sachs.
3) Hillary’s a rank hypocrite. She bangs on ad nauseam about women’s rights but sucks up to and solicits cash for the Clinton Foundation from draconian regimes like Saudi Arabia that stone women to death and refuse to let them even drive cars.
4) She’s a dangerous war-mongerer. The Iraq War was an unmitigated fiasco that led to turmoil throughout the Middle East and spurred the rise of ISIS. It was the biggest foreign policy disaster since Vietnam and Hillary voted for it. She was also heavily responsible for the dismal Libya invasion. When people say they don’t trust Trump with his finger on the nuclear trigger, I suggest Hillary the Hawk is far more likely to press it.
5) She’s a flip-flopper extraordinaire. On endless issues from Iraq to gay marriage, Israel to TPP and the Keystone Pipeline, Hillary will say one thing but think nothing of saying the complete opposite later if it’s politically expedient.
6) She has a chronic superiority complex. Never was this more vividly exposed than with her disgraceful comment that half of Trump’s supporters were ‘a basket of deplorables’. That’s tens of millions of fellow Americans she was insulting, many of them honest, hard-working people.
7) She’s an embellisher of stories to make herself look better. We all remember her heroic tale of having to flee sniper fire in Bosnia with her daughter Chelsea in 1996. There was just one problem – she didn’t.
8) She’s held lots of jobs but performed none of them particularly well. As Secretary of State she was widely considered inefficient, ineffectual and complacent – sometimes to lethal consequence as we saw with the Benghazi fiasco that cost the lives of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans. Hillary’s undeniably very experienced, but how valuable is all that experience if you’ve never excelled at anything you’ve done?
9) She’s oddly charmless. I’ve watched her speaking at the debates and various rallies, and indeed at last night’s Al Smith dinner, and she exudes the warmth and wit of a sour-faced Pit Bull terrier. As for that perpetual creepy Jack Nicholson ‘Shining’ smirk she does.. UGH
10)Her health remains a major concern. That video of her keeling over after leaving a 9/11 memorial service was deeply troubling. Particularly when we know she had a serious head injury after passing out in 2012. Hillary is 69 next week and doesn’t exude good health, fitness or vitality, which are fairly essential components of being a modern day President. Trump’s 70 but has extraordinarily impressive energy.
11)She carries with her a dripping sense of entitlement based on her gender that is deeply irritating. Hillary may as well have two tattoos on her forehead proclaiming: ‘Born to be First Female President’ and ‘Vote for me – I’m a woman!’
12)She wouldn’t inspire me to open a cookie jar, and I normally need no encouragement to do that. Contrast her oratory style with someone like Michelle Obama – whose fire and passion has electrified this race in recent weeks. Hillary’s a dull, lifeless, robotic speaker by comparison.
13)She’s not Bill, one of the smartest, most brilliantly charismatic politicians America has ever seen. There’s a sense with Hillary that she’s riding on the coattails of her husband’s huge popularity. Would she be anywhere near winning the presidency if many Americans weren’t thinking this was a way of getting Bill back to the White House too? I don’t think so.
14)I fear that beneath the constant, smug, apple-cheeked smirk lies a fairly unpleasant piece of work. Former Secret Service agents have painted a picture of a vengeful, mistrustful, abusive, angry, sarcastic, demanding, disorganized, unpunctual boss.
15)She would push for a new cold war with Russia in an effort to prove her toughness with Vladimir Putin. You can tell this by the hateful rhetoric which spews from her mouth every time she mentions his name. This is a very worrying thing for the world.
16)Republicans hate her even more than they hate President Obama. This will be a massive issue if she wins. Obama’s woeful inability to do business with the opposition rendered him incapable of even passing a single new gun law after Sandy Hook. What hope for Hillary, with all her Washington enemy-making over the past 40 years, to achieve any meaningful deals?
17)Her baggage is horrendous. From Whitewater to Vince Foster, Hillary’s past is scandalously dubious and troublesome. Does this matter? Yes. It goes to the heart of her character. She’s dodgy, period.
18)The way she attacked Bill’s lovers in the past leaves an unedifying taste in the mouth given all her lofty moral pronouncements about the way Trump treats women. Hillary didn’t just stand by her philandering man, she trashed the women he bedded. Very unfortunate for the self-styled Emmeline Pankhurst of US politics.
19)She’s chillingly ambitious to the expense of anything else in her life. It seeps from every pore. This is a career politician who has repeatedly shown she will trample over anyone and anything that gets in her way, and who conveniently overlooks moral and ethical issues if they don’t suit her agenda or progression to power.
20) Madonna has offered to perform free oral sex for anyone who votes for Hillary. I literally cannot think of a single more compelling reason not to vote for her.
#writeinbernie
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