Martin Armstrong Asks: “Rothschilds – Fact or Disinformation to Protect the Guilty?”

Screen Shot 2015-03-11 at 4.59.11 PMRegular Liberty Blitzkrieg readers will be aware that I very much enjoy reading the opinions of Martin Armstrong, a man with such an interesting and unique life story, I won’t even attempt to do it justice here. Not only have his major “macro turn dates” impressed me all the way back to my prior career on Wall Street, he doggedly refuses to limit his thinking to any type of narrow minded, dogmatic viewpoint, no matter what genre of viewpoint that may be. While I disagree with him on several issues, he tends to see the realities of the macro world around us from a perspective quite similar to my own. He doesn’t try to make world events fit into a predetermined viewpoint, but rather tries to look at each distinct global event or emerging meme with as little bias as possible.

Within the anti-establishment world in which I proudly reside, many people look for simplistic narratives. Ironically, these narratives are often as silly and narrow-minded as those who pledge allegiance to the fraudulent Republican or Democratic parties. For some, it’s the Jews. If you don’t think the Jews run the world and are the root of all evil, you must be a CIA shill or “working for them.” For others, it’s the Arabs or Muslims, and so on and so forth. Another bizarre obsession is this notion that a small group of families hiding in the shadows hold all the real money and power on earth, and that these are the ones actually ordering the billionaires around. The family most often named as the kingpins of this pyramid are the Rothschilds.

The world is a strange place, and I don’t claim to know anything but an infinitesimally small fraction of what there is to know. While I certainly won’t rule out the possibility that there are some extraordinarily rich people who stay behind the scenes and exert tremendous influence, my response is: Who cares?

As Eleanor Roosevelt eloquently noted:

“Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”

I agree 100% with the above quote. People who obsess about getting rid of specific people, or groups of people, as the answer to systemic problems aren’t thinking big enough. Slavery was an idea and an institution that existed in human civilization from the beginning. It was only after bloody conflicts and an evolution in consciousness, that humanity agreed it was unacceptable. You could’ve chopped to bits slave-master after slave-master, but as long as the institution remained in place and acceptable there would be plenty of people more than happy to take their place. Similarly, there are plenty of people who would happily become 18th century style slave-masters in 2015 if given half the chance.

So if you want real change, you need to attack systems, ideology and paradigms. Sure, I certainly call out some of the worst defenders and profiteers of the status quo all the time on this site, but I don’t for a minute think that simply getting rid of these individuals will change anything permanently unless we alter people’s hearts and minds first, and then the system itself second.

A great example of how dangerous and counterproductive an obsession with the “Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc” can be, was evidenced here on this site a month ago. In the post titled, Meet the Extreme Super Rich – A List of the 80 People Who Own as Much as the World’s Poorest 3.6 Billion. Here are a couple of screen shots from the comment section.

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Think about how completely unproductive these comments are. Even if they are 100% true, so what? Sheldon Adelson is #8 on that list, with an estimated wealth of $38 billion; and he is absolutely spending it, and absolutely directly influencing events on the world stage in a very negative way (see: Sheldon Adelson – The Dangerous American Oligarch Behind Benjamin Netanyahu).

Does it really matter if someone else is pulling his strings? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t. We already know how the oligarchs control the world through central bank money printing, wars, etc. These people must be battled in the world of ideas, not in the world of obsessing over shadowy families. That’s merely a waste of time and valuable energy.

Martin Armstrong seems to agree. Here are some excerpts from his post: Rothschilds – Fact or Disinformation to Protect the Guilty.

The conspiracy promoters are just not satisfied with the fact that we are screwed and perhaps nobody is in charge to stop or push anything. The days of the Rothschilds owning banks and financing wars is old history, Yet to this day, they paint this family as behind everything. This to me is PROPAGANDA for they are not even on center stage. Hey, as long as the get people to blame them, the NY Bankers are free to bribes all they want and politicians are for sale to the highest bidder. Sorry – but the Rothschilds have been long out-classed by New York. That was 19th century.

No family is worth $500 trillion and the Rothschild do not own every central bank. This is just total propaganda that is the perfect cover for those who are really screwing society. This is the oldest trick in the book – kids play this game: I didn’t do it, he did. Or how about – “The dog age it.”

He does not own the central banks and we had under contract over $3 trillion at Princeton Economics in the ’90s. Nobody has ever come that close to what we advised on. Even now, we are still being called in for advice on portfolios more than 100 times what RIT Capital Partners controls.

What is happening is very interesting. We have more people abandoning the banks as advisers today than perhaps at anytime in my career. This has been because they have woken up to the new way of doing business – transactional banking where the clients are the target. The good old days of relationship banking no longer exist among the NY money-center banks. Those days are long gone.

Pay attention to the REAL players. This nonsense is a total diversion from the truth. While you are pointing fingers at the Rothschilds, the NY boys are counting their money.

Certainly something everyone in the anti-establishment camp should think about deeply.

For related articles, see:

Meet the Extreme Super Rich – A List of the 80 People Who Own as Much as the World’s Poorest 3.6 Billion

Sheldon Adelson – The Dangerous American Oligarch Behind Benjamin Netanyahu

In Liberty,
Michael Krieger

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59 thoughts on “Martin Armstrong Asks: “Rothschilds – Fact or Disinformation to Protect the Guilty?””

  1. You are wrong on this one, Michael. Back in the 70s I knew Keith Rothschild in Palm Beach, Fla. He admitted his family funded both sides of wars for control and profit.

    Read None Dare Call It Conspiracy. It’s an old book but true then and true now. It lays it out.

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    • correct, this author wants us to believe we should be focusing on ideas and not the perpetrators of the problem. I believe we should focus on both

      When you know someone is currently stealing from you, plotting against you, causing terrorist acts, you don’t sit back and let them continue to do it, you put them in a nice padded cell where they can be monitored 24/7 until these kids can learn to play nicely.

      The Rothschilds set up the crooked central banks, but i agree we should not blame the Rothschilds completely, We were all stupid enough to accept their fiat paper currency, so in a sense we get what we deserve,

      “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes it’s laws” — Mayer Rothschild…

      But Times change and people can change with proper information instead of misinformation

      End the Fed

      get back to a sound money supply

      Google Colonial script , tally stick system, there are plenty of good monetary systems that will turn the economy around overnight.

      All it simply takes is an agreement

    • I also have to disagree. If these families didn’t matter at all, then how did Nelson Rockefeller end up as vice president and almost as president? You have to know your history to know who is screwing us over and these same names repeatedly pop up again and again – Vanderbilt, Bush, Warburg, etc., etc.

      They may not be the highest rung of power, but if you teach people the history of how these same families have gained power and control, it helps steer people towards understanding the evils of central banking and the unlimited power of being able to print money out of thin air.

      All of these people are major players in moving forward in globalism and concentrating the power in the hands of fewer and fewer people, so I can’t see education on the topic being detrimental at all if you are an advocate of decentralization.

  2. “These people must be battled in the world of ideas”

    Here’s my honest critique. I rarely read your blog anymore….because after awhile it just seems like information that isn’t going anywhere other than sniffing out the all the useless charlatans….there is a lot of bullshit going on, for sure, and it is great that it is exposed. The list of evil characters is endless though, and that while it doesn’t hurt that it is called out, it becomes useless information after awhile without ideas to thwart the true direction of the establishment. In fact, after awhile, I realized all this information just beats any optimism I might have right out of me…..and hasn’t furthered any of my own best interests at all.

    Calling it all out is great. But the anti-establishment movement has lost its way and its guts in my opinion. It has become Tea Party like in my eyes. It’s dent in the structure is zero. None. Nada. ZIp.

    Without a coordinated plan of ideas to change the system, the system will own us all. And it does. And no one has changed that.

    When people like you stopped with the Buy SIlver and Take Down JP Morgan campaigns, etc. we all lost. Why? Because at least that was one central idea that anyone in the anti-establishment crowd could partake in. Remember civil disobedience? Frankly, the banks and the thieves have won in my opinion. While the rest of us have degenerated into a culture of a bunch of intellectual whiners but are doing almost nothing about it.

    I’m probably wrong. I’m probably missing it. But I see no central ideas that goes up against the giants to take them down. Without ideas, actionable ideas, it’s just education, but if it’s just education, it’s just depressing: leaving one in a abyss of hopelessness. If there are ideas to make true changes, let me know, but I don’t see it. Otherwise, I’ll continue to stop by once every couple months to see what parasite is currently taking advantage of us.

    With the best of intentions,
    Nicholas

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    • Nicholas, your frustration is honest and some of the criticism is fair. Just a suggestion: Forget having others lead the charge, suggest a path forward, offer ideas that we can all get behind, inspire us to reclaim greatness, help launch a really effective movement, etc. etc. It is tremendously freeing to understand that all you can do, all that can ever be done, is done one person at a time.

      Michael decided to leave a career because this work is important to him. He is doing it in a way he feels is helping and by the number of references I see to this blog around the Net, he has support to believe that.

      I withdrew all my money from Chase, closed my .gov approved IRA and retirement accounts, learned the tax code to squeeze everything I can out, write in different spots to encourage others, have more gold, silver, ammo, guns, food, medicine, water filtration equipment, solar lighting, technical manuals and situational awareness than 99% of Americans.

      I am going to step up my game in 2015. We don’t need Michael to light a fire under us, we all know what we can do, what needs to be done. If everyone just did that much, the effect would be palpable. Instead, I read this blog to rediscover what I already know, to reinforce my conviction that I am doing the right thing, and to feel some community when I’m surrounded by the Wheel of Fortune crowd most of us experience.

      You don’t need “a coordinated plan.” You need to do what you feel you need to do, to the extent that you can do it. Try it. You’ll be amazed at how it dispels hopelessness.

    • As people wake up, one person at a time, BECAUSE OF ARTICLES LIKE THIS, we all must spread the word, this is what they fear the most and what will bring them down.

      Spreading the word is job one, especially to our 1st responders, street level police and military that are frighteningly clueless.

      Additionally anyone running for ANY office, local, state and federal must NOT get elected if they are unaware of what is happening. All of our elected representatives must be held accountable to reverse the emerging Islamic police state of America as a top priority and knowing many higher powers will work against them in the process.

      The American working taxpayer, our military, US sovereignty and the laws of our land are being destroyed in a sustained, systematic undermining and quiet, Islamic coup d’état of the USA that’s been in the works for many years now.

      In the USA the RINOs in the GOP and all current democrats are behind it.

      “There is a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot.”

      – President John F. Kennedy

      President Kennedy was murdered 52 years ago in a modern day coup in America. Those responsible for the assassination were never punished and the evil that they ushered in has grown and grown since November 22, 1963 to the point now where we are in unlimited wars, the economy is a shambles, our vital constitutional freedoms are mostly lost, Our country is in danger of being over run by Islamic radicals, and we are facing the Third World War/Armageddon.

      Enlighten conservative talking heads like Sean Hannity and Rush, they don’t seem to have connected the dots yet.

      “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries. ”

      -David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany in June 1991

      1991?

      And look who got to sleep in the Clinton White House ~

      Listen to the last 3 minutes and ask why NOT A WORD FROM THE UN, or Hillary? (sarcasm):

      youtube: The Rothschilds Exposed 3/3
      http://youtu.be/47WM2BhklmM

      (…they funded the Knesset too?)

      Know Your Enemy (Part 71 – Israeli Supreme Court)
      http://youtu.be/0qGstcJocPs

      youtube: Slave Queen
      http://youtu.be/vrsfll_QLUw
      by TruthNeverTold

      And in the USA, if you understand the treasonous club, things will make sense (as they talk about ‘restoring America’, they mock us behind closed doors and quietly empower Islam in public education, top government positions, Sharia Law in banking and enabling ISIS while appearing to fight ISIS).

      Boehner, McCain, Kerry, Bush(s), Clinton(s), Graham, McConnell and who RINOs and all democrats bow to:

      Check out the last 30 seconds of 2, then watch these two short videos:

      youtube: Obama and Rockefeller 1
      http://youtu.be/K6C24GpgQTQ

      youtube: Obama and Rockefeller 2
      http://youtu.be/M8vFSqYXJ8U

      You have to watch the above two videos before you can truly appreciated this one:

      Hillary Clinton admits the CFR gives the Orders

      http://youtu.be/Ba9wxl1Dmas

      Here’s the latest on the Rockefellers:

      Why Rockefellers Aim at Destroying Farmers Worldwide? | New …

      http://www.journal-neo.org/ 2014/ 12/ 11/ why-rockefellers-aim-at-destroying-farmers-worldwide/

      -Ooops! Sorry! Here’s the ‘latest’, and it’s an excellent video:

      Exploiting the 1938 reaction to H. G. Wells radio show of ‘War of the Worlds’:

      How to Fake an Alien Invasion

      http://youtu.be/pM4tkJGSSaU

    • Good points Nicholas – the area most important to actually CHANGE anything is our ability to freely partake of psychedelics / entheogens. Most people are not aware that an entire pathway of medicine is forbidden, since 1966 and expanded in the 1980s with the analogue laws. Corporate media keeps people thinking the drug war is just about cocaine, heroin and cannabis. Psychedelics are the most effective method to expand human consciousness. The “Elite” are addicted to money & power – the antidotes to those afflicted with affluenza are LSD – Psilocybin – MDMA – 2DB – Ketamine – DMT and the Diamond Tip of the entheogen class is a combination DMT/K. These are neurotransmitters which are the key to overcoming our problems. Check out this link for a look at brain imaging “TURNED ON” brain versus “NON-TURNED ON” brain http://www.walacea.com – We either free our minds or we will see the continued Police State Prison Planet establish itself. LSD was so demonized because it’s potency is effective at a dose of as little as 50mcg – and could be made virtually free. The book “Brotherhood of Eternal Love” is in print again and is an excellent read about the underground psychedelic movement and the dirty tricks the .gooberment attempted to destroy, defame & debilitate liberty. Yes, it does very much go back to the JFK assassination and the ensuing horror of continued coverups & killings. Check out John Judge on youtube – read Dr. Leary’s “Flashbacks” book, the works of Jonathan Ott & Terence McKenna, Albert Hoffmann, for starters. Remember the music of America. look at the divide & conquer techniques & domination of the media – the new 322 pages of internet regulations coming into force to give the FCC jurisdiction over the internet – like they have over commercial tv/radio. Thanks to sites like Liberty Blitzkrieg, Washington’s blog, Zerohedge, and all other Liberty supporters we Awakened are much better informed. We could easily fast track these medicines to be available in a matter of weeks if we had the willpower to – but like Nicholas points out, we won’t change anything if we stay bitching about the power politics and narrative presented to us by the MIC, the game of perpetual war….

    • I understand Nic. My personal way around this is to learn one new thing per day. Yesterday I learned that the overgrown dandelion like greens that I needed to pull in my garden were actually sow nettles. Then I learned that sow nettles were edible, and that the roots can be roasted into a coffee type of drink that is good for your liver and kidneys. So after making a huge salad out of the leaves yesterday, which was great with tahini dressing and did not kill me, today I am roasting the roots to make this coffee drink. Tomorrow I will use the flowers to brew a type of dandelion wine. And I am suddenly excited about all my weed pulling–and some people put Roundup on those things to kill them! Sheesh!
      Concerns about hidden hands or conspiracy blow away once you remove your back from the system…

    • Immediate actions:

      1. Buy everything, and I mean everything you can locally. No more purchases from chain stores whether food, clothes, hardware, home improvement, tires, etc., Support the local guys/gals of your community and give them your hard earned money. It will be returned back to you.

      2. Buy gold & silver – No need to explain.

      3. Eat organic food and stay fit – This will starve the GMO beast, big corporate food giants, fast food giants AND keep you OUT of their for profit, corporate hospitals designed to treat your symptoms not cure you.

      4. Grow your own food through small gardening – Same exact reasons as #4.

      5. Bank with local credit union and keep bulk of your money, at all times, out of the banking system.

      If the elite gain their daily wealth through Fortune 500 corporations, big pharma, food giants, national chain stores, big banks, etc., what’s the absolute best way to deprive them of their lifeblood (money)? Yep. #1-#5 above.

      But how many people actually DO these things? How many bitch about the elites but still shop at Walmart, Target, Macy’s, go to McDonalds or Wendys, or bank with Chase or another national chain bank?

      If we all followed #1-#5, a huge swath of the elite’s wealth and influence would evaporate in less than 6 months time.

    • For “Whom the Belle Toils” – you are “spot on”!, correct. We all must do what we can, as individuals, to bring about change. The appropriate changes only come, when WE change – ourselves, from the inside, out.

  3. This is a central question for many of us. Who is engineering this change? Is this group think or is it the thoughts of only a few? How many is a few? Does the mass media get programmed by a small coterie of handlers, or is it just herd behavior, albeit looking out for the interests of the privileged?

    I tend to think that there is a small band of men who do control the direction of things, backed by their thinktankland. Whether this is the Rothschild clan, I have no idea. There is certainly a lot of jewish influence in this tribe.

    It just seems that there is a very intense game of chess being played by some very crafty characters at the top of the heap. All their hangers on know exactly what these men want. I don’t believe this is just a systems problem inherited from the distant past. Something/someone has a major influence in keeping on a certain track, and it is done by the few, whoever they are.

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    • “For Whom the Belle Toils” – read “B.M.”‘s comment above, for SPECIFIC ACTIONS, that ANYONE can take, to stop feeding the beast (system). Hit ’em where it counts – in the wallet. THEN, AND ONLY THEN, will “they” start listening to We, the People.

  4. Re Warren’s comment: Even if true–I have no reason to doubt you while having no proof to believe you–it misses the whole point that was made.

    The problem with America isn’t the Rothschild clan, in its most fundamental aspect. It’s that America has grown so lazy, so blase about guarding our basic human rights that we have allowed our freedoms to be stolen out from under us. Who cares if it’s the Rothschilds or Barney Fife? How does even knowing what you say you know make any difference in combating our enslavement?

    If I know for a fact a family is funding both sides of a war, the problem isn’t in identifying the family. The problem comes in having a population so incapable of critical thinking that they can’t make an independent judgement that they are being whipped into a war frenzy for some reason other than the one the flag wavers are offering. If Americans still widely held principals of courage and a higher good, .gov wouldn’t be able to run any surveillance center because no one would work for them at any price.

    Any one with half a brain can see that it is the US that is goading Russia and not the other way around. But we’re too hypnotized to see it. The demonizing is so thorough I had one knucklehead tell me the other day that Russia was behind the price of oil falling off a cliff. Right…they came up with that great plan to eviscerate their economy. These people vote, for God’s sake.

    Think about it again, Warren, from the point made in the story: where is the leverage to resist and perhaps return to some former glory for America? It starts and ends with the knowledge of what is being done to us, not who is doing it. Once we have that widely understood, the underpinnings will give way on their own as we withdraw support. Until that time, we are owned lock, stock and barrel. By whom it matters not.

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  5. Hmmm

    If you cut the off the head, the serpent really does die. On the other hand, if you just cut off its tail, it usually grows another one……………………..

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  6. mike it’s funny how you mentioned jews. and the ‘arab muslims’ in the same breadth.

    and yet you failed to mention nazi’s.

    you are poorly self educated mike. and your thesis is idiodic. it absolutely matters WHO is controlling things.

    your citing of martin Armstrong to make a point does your argument nothing.

    people don’t find for ideas, they fight for their own gain and the gain of their tribe.

    those who disavow tribalism have only two ideological ideas to sell—-rabid individualism or rabid trans-tribalism which is STATISM.

    rabid individualism is of course either the sell of a startup cult, or of a suicidal fool who believes families and individuals can succeed without community support or government support.

    there is no middle ground. groups exist across society as tribes that have loose affiliations with other groups. if you think all of one society is one tribe, that is sellling statism as communism or facism and it is precisely what bismark and the nazi’s and thousands of historical dictaotrs have done throughout history to CO-OPT the greater society at large for the benefit of a select insider group.

    you are saying —don’t focus on the groups, just focus on the greater slate of ideas.

    what ideas mike? are you selling rabid statism or rabid individualism—

    your ethos is nice minded, that the ideas of war and corporatism are the problem and the public debate must shift to attacking them. but these ‘ideas’ and many others like them have for quite some time been deliberately cultivated by those who BENEFIT from them and you are saying to ignore that. this is a mentally deficient statement. and probably this is the stupidest post you have ever posted and i’ve been following you for years. perhaps it’s the stupidest post because you really should elaborate on what you mean here by don’t focus on WHO BENEFITS, BUT JUST FOCUS ON IDEAS.
    maybe you ought to rethink your position to a more subtle argument about how narrow minded conspiracy theorists are missing the forest for the trees and must sometimes change focus.

    that’s all great and fine but how do you propose to obtain power to implement those ideas.

    so many in the ‘liberty’ movement and occupy both want to ‘take down’ the system. but HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE NEXT SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING POWER?

    so you are naive in thinking WHO is not important. you would not actually think this way if you have done your research on the various nazi insider corporatist groups that control the united states.

    why don’t you take a trip to colorado springs and do some real investigative journalism?. see what’s up there. look for the hardcore conservatives that run the very town that houses many of the employees and owners and supervisors of the firms that sell weapons for our wars.
    you are not going to see to many jews up there, and i recommend you don’t announce your own origins to those you are trying to ‘get to know’./

    or check out the murals in denver airport and the supposed plans for a massive underground shopping mall complex there. the biggest complex ever built underground at an airport.

    http://www.waronwethepeople.com/denver-airport-murals-explained-dr-leonard-horowitz/

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  7. What if killing the perpetrators IS the systemic change we are looking for? At some point you need consequences for criminality. Sure there are systemic reasons, huge, that must be addressed. I agree, the people need to wake up first and foremost, but after waking up the system that is implemented to address this elite infestation in our lives may very well be a simple gallows. The theories for a working society come and evolve over time, but we must stop the bankers TODAY even if it means massive disobedience. I really think massive action is the answer. Massive tax revolt, massive military abandonment, massive actions of local armed groups confronting police violence. The masses need to simply stand up and be seen, that will be enough.

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  8. Some people believe that a few super rich families control all aspects of life and politics on earth. The truth is much more scary than this. In reality no-one is in control.

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    • Hmmm

      Of course it really is random market forces (luck) that just keeps conspiring to hand over more and more wealth to the same tiny group who are associated with those 147 interlocking multi-national corporations. Yes sir, talk about luck………………….In the case of the Rothschild family this “luck” has been running their way for centuries. Go figure right?

  9. mike you have to rethink this post and do some hard work checking your head on this. i’m disaapointed in you somewhat.

    your post is a typical diversionary kind of post but i give you the benefit of the doubt.

    many diversionaries and subversion agents exist throughout many dissident groups .

    your post is subversive in a very obviosu way. consider that , someone from one of the many insider groups you claim don’t matter would love to fund your platform.

    the greatest trick the devil ever played was making people think he didn’t exist….

    WHO matters. you cannot ignore how to stop a war, while ignoring the identity of the person initiating it is shooting you in the face.

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    • “Teslark”, let’s get a few things straight.

      First of all, I could care less that you give me “the benefit of the doubt.” Thankfully, I’m not your girlfriend or your psychiatrist and don’t need to hold your hand or prove anything to you. Furthermore, I sincerely feel bad for those people and the tremendous pain you must cause them on a consistent basis by having to interact with you. Who do you think you are?

      Well, I can tell readers a little bit about you. You have a habit of making stuff up about me in the comment section, and in far too many cases I have wasted my time responding and disproving your disinformation and innuendos. The above comment is a perfect example.

      First, you claim giving me “the benefit of the doubt” and then immediately afterward state “many diversionaries and subversion agents exist throughout many dissident groups,” which is a transparent and passive aggressive way of implying that this could apply to me. Then you, not very cleverly I might add, do it again when you say “someone from one of the many insider groups you claim don’t matter would love to fund your platform.”

      Well let me clear it up for the millionth time. I have no outside funding and my opinions are 100% my own and I don’t need to worry about pushing anyone else’s agenda in the pursuit of funding.

      My name is public, my career history is public and I come to play ball every day against the criminal system and status quo plaguing the planet.

      If anyone could be the disinfo agent it is you. To clear the air, please tell readers the same information about yourself that I give. Full name, career history and what you do on a daily basis to further freedom on earth. We would all love to know of all the brilliant ideas you have and projects you are involved in that we can become a part of. I’d love to know what you do day in and day out other than make stuff up on other people’s websites.

      WHO does matter, but not as much as how they do it. That was the point of the post. I am constantly calling people out on this site, but to obsess about shadowy families (whether or not they exist) will accomplish absolutely nothing. Nobody will listen to you and you’ll end up alone in a empty apartment commenting on people’s websites who are actually trying to make a difference.

      No, I don’t have to rethink this post. This post is the product of many years of thought and many years of reading. I just used Armstrong’s post as an opportunity to agree. As he said, as you obsess with the Rothschilds, the NYC bankers are counting their money and laughing at you…and believe me they are.

      Furthermore, stop sending me personal emails asking to meet up in NYC. That is, until you can grow up and stop making clownish stuff up on my website.

      Thanks

  10. I disagree with Armstrong. We all know that ZIRP is a bad idea, but do you or I have any say to change this policy? We all know there are stock market manipulations, but can you or I change the situation? NO! why not? because you and I are not Rothschild nor JP Morgan nor Rockefeller nor Goldman Sachs!. When you or I make a phone call to the congress meetings to voice our ideas, no senators will take the call (John McCann even called the protesters “you low life scum”) , but when Jamie Dimen made a phone call, many Congressmen will listen and bow to his idea. Armstrong said Rothschild or JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs are not behind all the bad policies (“ideas” ) that central banks is implementing. How does he know? He said Rothschild family is not worth $500 trillion. How can he be so sure about how much Rothschild family’s wealth is worth or not worth? Armstrong said “No family is worth $500 trillion and the Rothschild do not own every central bank. This is just total propaganda that is the perfect cover for those who are really screwing society.” How does he know this unless he is one of the insiders who are in control? Who then is the one who are really screwing the society? Still he or she or they has/have to be somebody, right? I am sure he is not a Walmart worker who are payed to work for $10 per hour. I am sure your plumber is not the one who caused the financial collapse in 2008. What use is it to discuss ideas among you or us little ordinary people on the street when the powerful hands of some elites behind the scene bribed and controlled the policy makers to implement their ideas, not yours nor ours. Armstrong basically is telling us: do not identify the criminals behind a crime scene when there is a crime going on, let us just discuss the ideas how to build a great society. Well, I say: the starting point to build a better society is to hold the criminals who ruin the society accountable. This is not a rocket science idea. This is common sense.. Armstrong said “The Rothschilds will not benefit from war. ” How does he know? The family had a track record of benefiting from war, right? Does Armstrong know when was their moment of coming to Jesus? Armstrong said “He does not own the central banks and we had under contract over $3 trillion at Princeton Economics in the ’90s. ” How can Armstrong be so certain about Rothschild’s innocence given all the dark history of the family? Is he one of the insiders to the Rothschild family. Is he paid to defending them or other power elites? I have to ask this question.

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    • Did you even read the post? He never said don’t identify the criminals and bring them to justice. He said the criminals are right there in plain view, but rather than dealing with the real criminals we know are wrecking everything, many people prefer to focus on shadowy families. In the meantime, the NYC bankers and politicians get rich and screw you over while you’re busy fantasizing about the Rothschilds. His point is not complicated.

    • Michael, while I understand the article’s intent, is it even possible to address an undesirable ‘idea’ without ‘obsessing’ (to some extent) about they who authored and maintain its implementation?

      Without doing that, then the danger is that the ‘idea’ will be seen by many to be an almost natural outcome – normal and possibly even unavoidable. e.g. The ‘idea’ of Nazism exists whether there is a Saturn or Jupiter but it would not necessarily have a presence on those planets without a Hitler-like presence to create it, order its enforcement and a brainwashed citizenry to cheer it on.

      To discuss an idea may be a sign of a great mind, but to get it adopted, you need to bring onboard a volume of humans – who, sadly, are overwhelmingly made up of ‘weak minds’ – and they don’t discuss ideas. They obsess about people.

      People like Hitler know that is how to effect change and get an idea adopted – whereas Armstrong doesn’t

    • Michael, off course I read the post. I even went to Armstrong’s website to read his article. The article went a long way to defend Rothschild family and said how impossible that Rothschild family were behind all the financial or social chaos in the world today, yet the article did not name a single entity who is responsible for these. Yes, the article vaguely stated with only one sentence that the NY boy are counting their money. (“While you are pointing fingers at the Rothschilds, the NY boys are counting their money.”). But the main proposition of the article is “let us not focus on people, let us focus on ideas.”. Well, how does Armstrong know that the NY boys are not link to the City of London, which is Rothschild’s home state? Even Julian Assange said “wherever the corruption start in the world, it ends in [the City of ] London.” How do you know that the NY boys are not merely the front men or even part of the showy entity who orchestrate all these corruption? If you do not recognize that there is a shadowy group who runs this world, who is implementing their sinister agenda (i.e. idea) of the New World Order, you are not getting into the heart of the problem. By ridiculing people who pointed out such conspiracy, at the same time, not identify any real entity who are responsible for the problem, only vaguely saying “it’s politician and NY boys” who are the bad guys, you are counter productive. I consider Julian Assange words true information, and Mr. Armstrong’s article is truly disinformation. Watch Julian Assage: Rothschild’s Bank of England PROFITS FROM THE SUFFERING OF THE WORLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dckZxGB4e7E

    • The status quo is not just NY bankers, and I have no doubt they are totally linked to City of London bankers. You write:

      “How do you know that the NY boys are not merely the front men or even part of the showy entity who orchestrate all these corruption?”

      I don’t know this, and I never said that I did. What I do know is that whoever is responsible for keeping the sick system up and running cannot do it without the ignorance and compliance of the world population, and the systems in place to achieve it. Thus convincing enough people of what is happening and then dismantling these systems forever is getting to the root of the problem. Evil sociopaths will always exist, the key to freedom is preventing them from creating systems of abuse. Indeed, this was the great genius of the U.S. Constitution.

      I’m not ridiculing anyone, I’m merely stating that yelling about the Rothschilds will get absolutely nothing done. So I advocate for a different strategy.

    • “.. the great genius of the U.S. Constitution.”

      Oh Michael, you really need to read Hologram of Liberty: The Constitution’s Shocking Alliance With Big Government
      by Kenneth W. Royce and Boston T. Party.

      The constitution was a coup d’etat.

      And don’t forget to read None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen.

    • Michael, maybe you have a good intention to advocate a different strategy. But I do not agree with you saying “yelling about the Rothschilds will get absolutely nothing done. ” I say it is very important it identify who is the real power behind the system: by identifying the true power behind the front men (i.e the NY bankers etc) helps us to know our true enemy. As a matter of fact, I want to quote Apostle Paul’s saying:”For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” The Rothschild family are known to connect to the dark religious occult. So the true power behind the banking cabal is not human but satanic power in nature. Do not think you and I can change the system, we can only escape the system, by put out faith in God and follow Jesus Christ, by learn the truth God gave us thought the BIble. It will take God’s hand to destroy the system, which Bible called Babylon the Great (Revelation 17-18), We are called to come out of Babylon, not change Babylon. In order to come out of Babylon, we have to first identify Babylon–the believing system of Rothschild. That is why identify the link between the banking cabal with Rothschild is important.

  11. Well isn’t it nice to see a Porschelatariate defend the Bentleygeoise. So the near perfection of ideas which constructed The Bill of Rights and later the Constitution are the problem, not the individuals who have committed countless crimes against humanity disregarding and violating both of them? Out of your Chevy Chase closet are you Mr. Krieger, or is it Tribeca? Sounds to me that as a writer of financial drivel you would be the classic bullet splatter victim in a righteous NYC to DC drive-by of the Citizenry. Starting to look over your shoulder? Good

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  12. Those who think that knowing who pulls the strings of the billionaire oligarchs is essential to changing anything are putting the cart before the horse. Finding out who has been pulling the strings will come about AFTER systemic changes are made. Systemic changes can happen only after the number of Americans who realize we are being manipulated against our interests reaches a critical mass, It will then be obvious to everyone what systemic changes are necessary (Constitutional amendments to forbid income taxes, reverse Citizens United and set term limits for Supreme Court justices; end the Fed). It will also be obvious who to imprison – any and every one who grossly violated their oath to abide by and protect the Constitution.Through them we will find out who’s will they were serving.

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  13. I must echo most of the comments. I am disappointed in the conclusions of Armstrong, Bill Still and Michael Kreiger regarding those responsible for the psycho freakshow of the last 100 years. No doubt Rothchild, Schiff, Warburg, Rothchild, Dupont, etc. have very bloody hands and if there is any justice, should all be prosecuted and hung. But they own it all. At least for now.

    Those responsible should be named and we should know. So they can be spat at when in public. Those who say otherwise are most likely shilling for them or yearn to be on their payroll.

    Armstrong is a good historian as is Still but their conclusions are daffy as their faces. Are Americans all the product of in-breeding??

    Both Still and Armstrong believe in a fiat system but not the one currently effect. Gold nor silver nor a combo of both are not to be the bedrock of a system because those who have these metals will have too much power!!! Armstrong says gold will go higher but not know so buy anything else but the markets are too overvalued!!

    All these mainstream and ” too close to mainstream” heads such as Armstrong and Still are interesting to listen to but their conclusions do not make sense!!

    If I have silver it is my choice. I can buy it or go to expensive restaurant. I prefer to buy silver or a gram of gold. According to Still, I will have too much power if I buy the gold!!!!!

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  14. You are full of shit and a part of the problem. The Rothschilds greased the skids for Hitler to come to power and then funded the building of Yad Vashem in Israel. So go fuck yourself. It’s as true as the day is long.
    You work for them or you pissed them off and are back peddling.

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    • Although everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together can immediately see the idiocy of the above comment for what it is, I have decided to highlight it in order to more clearly explain exactly how psyops agents and/or very low IQ human beings intentionally disrupt the comment sections of anti-status quo websites.

      I am 99% certain that the person commenting above is either a paid psyops agent/troll, or a very low IQ, disenfranchised person, angrily taking out his bubbling aggression on anyone who dares to disagree with him. I’m not sure which one he is, but I’ll offer arguments for both.

      1) The PSYOP Agent – It’s well known at this point that governments, rogue intelligence agencies, defense contractors and other private companies, employ a virtual army of trolls to infiltrate the comment sections of anti-status quo web sites with virtual armies of disinformation agents with the purpose of sowing doubt, creating confusion and making the comment section such an unpleasant place that communities fail to form. The tactics employed by such people are usually easy to identify. Confuse with bullshit, but most importantly never debate the actual points in the posts, but rather attack the author personally. When you can’t compete in the realm of ideas, this is always the preferred tactic.

      This is precisely what this person does. He offers two made up theories about me to sow doubt about who I am. He says “I work for them or pissed them off,” yet naturally offers no proof. As I have said many times, I don’t work for anybody and my opinions are not based on any sort of outside funding or influence. None. I would love for this person to offer proof to the contrary, but he won’t because it is impossible to prove something that isn’t true.

      Then he says I pissed “them” off and am backpedaling. By “them” I suppose he means the “Rothschilds” and that some minion of theirs threatened me. To this I would say, 100% untrue, and I’d love for him to offer some proof (of course he can’t). Furthermore, I don’t know what I am supposedly “back peddling” from. I never wrote or obsessed about the “Rothschilds” or shadowy families. So there’s nothing to back peddle from. See the tactic he uses though… Finally, I’m sure I have pissed many people off, possibly whoever he really works for, hence his comment. After all, by not focusing attention on the bankers and politicians and telling people to focus on shadowy families, he is giving a free pass to the criminals stealing everything and buying all property the world over as we speak.

      A Low IQ Troll – A low IQ troll will often employ the same tactics as a psyop agent for different reasons. This individual personifies the axiom “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” Such a person became aware of certain truths, lets say about the evils of Central Banking, and thus with his or her faith in the system rightly destroyed becomes a sucker to almost any theory. Such a person’s world has crumbled around them, and without the capacity for free-thinking will pretty much believe anything. It’s particularly appealing for a such a person to focus on shadowy families, as opposed to the real banker criminal and politicians right in front of them, since it gives them an excuse to not do anything about it. If the conspiracy runs so deep and is hopeless, why fight? Why think about ideas?

      Such a person is so simple-minded, that once they buy into a theory anyone who disagrees with them is “working for them.” It’s a nice little neat box to live in that feels good, but while they angrily yell at people in the comment section “the bankers are counting their money and laughing.”

      Just another useful idiot.

  15. If you were fighting the Mafia, would you limit your self to the minions or go after those at the top?

    But let’s get this straight, does the author here believe there is an organized financial “Cabal” that uses bribery,threats,blackmail and if need be, outright force? Is so, then is he saying it’s not important to identity and go after them?
    Or is he stating we just need to forget about who is screwing us and bring up a new parallel system?

    Or finally, does Michael Krieger not believe in the existence of a Cabal?

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    • I believe that there is a global status quo of bankers, intelligence agencies, corporations, politicians, etc who are thieving and destroying the planet. I believe that the names of the people actively doing the most damage are in the public record.

      I believe that IF there are shadowy families pulling the strings, the only way to get to them would be to hold the people actually doing the deeds responsible. Faced with a life in prison they’ll spill beans fast.

      More than that, I believe that identifying their systems of control and ending them…

      1) Central Banking
      2) Warfare
      3) Surveillance

      Is the only way to achieve genuine long-lasting change.

    • Michael, I am glad for what you believe. But since we all agree that it is some NY bankers who actually doing the damage, and that it is the politicians who were not doing their job to prosecute them, we have to ask: why? Why are the voices of the people not being heard? Why are the ideas of the people (such as the single payer health care system) not being adopted? Why aren’t we the people able to hold the big banker criminals responsible? Why are these criminals able to get away with the crime they committed? Why did Eric Holder dare to blatantly say to the public: we don’t want to go after them because they are too big to be prosecuted, at the same time the kids like Aaren Schlitz and Barret Brown were prosecuted with an iron fist? Why is that we all know the FED’s ZIRP and QE infinity policy is taking us to Armageddon, yet we can’t do anything about it except just discussing ideas? Do you or I have the power to go after the NY bankers? In 2008 when the financial crisis occurred, the voters identified that Bush and GOP, etc are corrupted and served the criminal bankers, they voted GOP out of the office and put Democrat and Obama into the office, but it didn’t take long for us to find out that Obama and the Democrats also serves the NY bankers. By now, I believe that most people agree with this conclusion: no matter who the president would be, it is a shadow group behind the scene who is running the show, and this group is no small potato. And this group is not some local corrupt officers, but a a global cabal. That is why people look into conspiracy theories, which pretty soon will turn out to be conspiracy facts.

    • I’ll tell you why. Ignorance and apathy. Less than 25% of Americans know who Janet Yellen is: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-janet-yellen-federal-reserve-pew-quiz-20141006-story.html

      So you think we are powerless against the NY bankers, but we will defeat the Rothschilds?! Think about how insane that logic is. If you think a global uprising against shadowy families is coming and will be our victory, you are very delusional and will be very disappointed. The bankers will continue to loot while you daydream.

    • Mikael: It does not serve the purpose of our discussion by distorting my points and insulting me. I never say that I believe we will defeat Rothschild, neither did I advocate for any uprising against shadowy family. I only pointed out that it is very reasonable for people to believe that there is a shadowing group behind the scene. And it is important to know our enemy first before discussing strategies.

    • You are the one who entangled the discussion of ending the status quo with your religious beliefs.

      Religion is about faith, not about logic.

      Overthrowing the status quo will take strategizing, logic and common sense. You proved your inability to engage in such a conversation the moment you exposed that it is your religious belief system that is at the root of your belief in shadowy families and the “Rothschilds” (which may or may not be a real problem, but are not central to the solution imo).

    • Ok, then good luck with your mission of “overthrowing the status qou” without even trying to figure out who is behind that status qou.

    • Thank you. Not all of us can be as evolved as you. 100% sure about religion, the universe, who runs the world. You must be the smartest guy on earth. I’m sure your lord would be shocked by your lack of humility.

  16. “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”

    The above quote is PARTIALLY correct. In addition to BIG IDEAS, GREAT minds discuss REALITY, including topics such as History and Economics (typically FACT-BASED, not zealously supporting an ideology or theories). GREAT MINDS are usually self-educated minds. Average minds discuss the weather, and sports scores. Small minds discuss people/personalities/celebrities – gossip.

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  17. Your lord is the one who is proud, you respond in two minutes – certainly not enough time to read the link which would show what I have said was not fear mongering at all. Knee Jerk reaction for sure. Pride .

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  18. Dear Michael,

    I read Amstrong’s blog almost daily and your blog very often as well. Thank you for your often very informative posts. I take you both very seriously in your posts but I regard myself as an avid gatherer of information and I do think I can offer one missing piece of information.

    The reason I think this, is because I haven’t seen both of you adress this issue in this specific way.
    Please let me explain. No man, not even Armstrong can KNOW everything. He is a master in long term predictions, in cycles, in history and in trading, and I have the greatest respect for him, but he is not a master in conspiracies even though he has seen elements behind the curtain. The curtain is just too big, he cannot KNOW all the players behind the curtain and even by his own admission, he is not an insider behind the curtain.

    My point is that I think that Armstrong – even though he is extremely knowledgeable in other area’s and even though he has the best intentions – is misdirecting the conspiracy thesis. He is correct that many of the conspiracy crowd blame the Rothschilds and that the they themselves do not matter a great deal. And you are correct that the major systems of control are Central Banking, Warfare and Surveillance.
    But the missing piece of information is in my humble opinion the New World Order, or NWO.

    Please, let me explain further. The internet is full of misinformation. If you start searching on this subject you get a lot of crap. You have to separate the wheat from the chaff.

    The best and singlemost comprehensive explanation I have ever seen about the NWO [New World Order] comes from one of Edward Griffin’s lectures. Edward Griffin is known as the author of the book “The Creatur of Jekyll Island” [about the real origins and structur of the Federal Reserve].

    In any case, his lecture is called “The Quigley Formula” and it is a review of professor Quigley’s book ‘Tragedy and Hope’. Professor Quigley was a Council on Foreign Relations member and historian, as well as mentor to CFR & Trilateral Commission member Bill Clinton. Professor Quigley was one of the ultimate insiders and his book is the conspiratorial view of history as taught by the conspirators themselves. This book was never supposed to see the light of day, but it did. Griffin’s lecture on ‘The Quigley Formula’ absolutely blew my mind. In my book this is an absolute MUST SEE VIDEO.
    You can see it on: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ynVqPnMQ2sI.

    You can see Bill Clinton mention professor Quigley covertly but in a highly symbolic and meaningful setting when he accepts the nomination for president at the Democratic National Convention in 1992:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A76LFGtWhRQ
    [41 seconds]

    Ron Paul explains the significance and meaning of what happened there at that Convention in this short video (but you really have to see Griffin’s lecture):
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-g1TaYYGv8Q
    [1 minute, 47 seconds]”

    In short: it is not about the Rothschilds, but it is about the NWO, I think it is very real, and it scares the crap out of me. Edward Griffin has even founded the organisation ‘Freedom Force Internaltional’ to counter and to begin fighting back to the NWO.

    Please please Michael, take a little time to explore this thesis.
    And again: thank you for your often enlightening posts.

    Kind regards,
    Mason

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  19. Another great article on an important issue.
    I have a similar perspective. We need to see
    which battles we can possibly affect, as a group.

    If we can reveal the work of Adelson, maybe
    it will stop. There’s a Koch-hunter on twitter
    who is having some success.

    Talking about the Big Families is just like
    shrugging your shoulders, or discussing
    the illuminati. We can do nothing about
    them except fighting against the wars
    they want to cause.

    Most of our energy should be spent on
    not feeding this bank-fiat-government
    fascist system which has us losing
    every time.
    The media only tells us we’ve been
    robbed after we were robbed.
    We need alt economy systems and
    “money” systems and even alt
    political systems.
    I like localism , myself.

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  20. Well having read through the comments, there are definite indication that there is a problem and certain directions should be tan, never mind who is to blame. The result of the so called problem was not mentioned, but its poverty, war, and no one mentioned where these misfits got their script from, which was obviously borrowed from Orwell.

    But bankers, Politicians, Corporate adventures and the rest of the driven single minded self serving psychopaths have flaw. They are human and open to suggestion, and are far more fragile than anyone possibly recognises. Know the enemy, not identify it, but knowing its psychological structure can render it very vulnerable indeed.

    So one listens to what it repeats, and the constant message is fear, violence, incarceration, and poverty for a start. This it what they project, the powerful puff! But they have the most to loose, and thus this repetitious set of messages, whether against Russia, Venezuela, terrorists, whoever is a constant, like it was with communism. We listen to the message, and forget the messenger in the process. Many of these so called messengers, also exhibit another public sop called strength, their beliefs, which include can you believe it religion. Religion and superstition are bedfellows, and the type of powerful individual that indulges in such practices is not quite as secure in themselves as they purport to be. It provides backbone to the weak, a secret insecurity, an invisible crutch, that is camouflaged by such an association, as are other cabals as well.

    So they are both insecure and fearful, despite the orchestration of war, hundreds of millions of deaths according to Chomsky as a result of their “ideas” in practice. They share a inner structure similar to those in the death camps, who went home and were family people, ordinary, unexceptional out of the floodlights. Its just a job, someone has to do it, it need doing and present foreign policy makes the death toll in WW2 seem like child’s play, a mere rehearsal.

    So what do they fear, depends on what they value, their family, relations, their own death or worse physical or mental impairment. So it seems what they do unto others must in no way impinge on them or their lives.

    Well never use mobile phones, trace whoever you are dealing with, get them checked out discretely, who they associate with the normal surveillance processes they also utilise but not their agencies. Then its simple, like a house of cards, first one, then another until the whole pack collapses, as they are a pack animal, and are helpless on their own, relying on subordinates to protect and do the dirty work. They control populations through fear, and they are also controlled through fear, and everything they so is an indication of what their vulnerabilities actual are.. One does not have to pull the trigger, as surely everyone in power know the pen is far more effective, just look at the hundreds of millions dead to verify this point.

    So simply put the psychological tools utilised to control populations and individuals is a double edged sword, except in the case of the so called powerful/elites because of their innate psychological structures is far more pronounced.

    So there are as suggested tools, and the new world Order is nothing new, Orwell demonstrated, as did Marks the mechanisms to use against populations and individuals. The real fear that the so called elites have is a simple word, democracy, where they are just one of a larger choir, drowned out, thus silenced. So all they have to fear is fear itself, and by god they are fearful hence the public performances of being strong men, keeping up appearances, as not all is always what it seems!

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